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Writing Career Question Considered

  • Oct. 8th, 2008 at 3:26 PM
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The talented [info]catrambo posted this question on her blog:  Are short stories really a good career strategy? What do you do after you've had a few published? Are there things new writers should be doing at this point -- for example, researching how Year's Best anthologies are put together and how to make sure their work gets considered for it?

Here's my .02 cents worth:

I think if you can write short stories (and not everyone can--some are just novelists from the start), that writing and selling them is great groundwork for placing a novel later. So, I'd say in answer to your first question that short stories are a good career strategy. I think they have been for me, anyway. I've sold some stories, and now that I'm working on a novel, I'm pretty sure that the story-sales background will at least get me a considered read on the project. Of course, I've also attended conventions and made some connections with the people who I would want to read my manuscript.

I say that with a lot of caveats though. If a writer has a novel idea that's crying to be written, but puts it on the shelf because someone said that short stories should come first, that's a mistake. You have to write what is crying out to be written. When I was doing the Campbell Award for Best New Writer web site, almost half of the 30 or so authors who made their professional debuts a year did it with novels, not stories.

I've been in a few year's best collections, but I never did anything to make sure my works were considered for them. I think the only thing a writer can do to show up in one is to write really well, and then sell the story to a venue that is read by the year's best anthologists. Gardner and Ellen both have a long list of honorable mentions at the backs of their anthologies, and they provide of a good list of the markets they're aware of (they read A LOT!).

I'm not sure how to answer the "career strategy" question, though. Other than Jay Lake, who revealed to me a couple of years before he won the Campbell for Best New Writer, his secret plan to dominate the publishing universe *g*, I've never met a newbie with a strategy. You write what you love, you grow in your writing, you make some sales, and then a "career" is born somewhere along the way. Later, when you know a lot about yourself and your marketability, more conscious choices can be made, like "do I want to write a series," or "am I going to move into the YA market," or "I think I'll focus on short stories for a year."

Even the choice to do a short story collection seems fraught with peril, at least from a lot of newish writers I know who want to rush into one before I think they are really ready. I always thought that a collection of short stories was pretty much an end-of-a-career sort of thing, like a retrospective, because single author story collections have a tendency to tank. Later, I learned that the small press had opened the doors to short story writers and given them the opportunity to showcase their work below the major market radar. I think a collection makes sense when a writer has a body of published work and there is a demand. The body of published work is pretty easy to see; the demand is a little tougher. For me, I knew there was a demand when Fairwood Press asked if I'd be interested in doing one. The other way you know there is a demand is if you ask a publisher if they'd be interested, and they are. There isn't a demand if you have to go out and do it on your own, which I've seen too often from those newish authors I mentioned earlier.

Long answer. Interesting question.

Comments

[info]kmarkhoover wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 10:21 pm (UTC)
Good advice, James, thank you!
[info]onemoreshadow wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 10:42 pm (UTC)
Some good advice there, James. There are plenty of authors who have never published a single short story who opt instead to apply all of their efforts to novels, and vice versa. I think it's such a subjective question because every writer is so different that Cat's original question, while thought-provoking, is kind of redundant from the point of view of a newbie trying to figure out what he/she should do.

To me, it's simple: If you don't love short stories, then you shouldn't be writing them. Especially short stories, which don't pay much, even in the so-called professional markets, and the credits don't really mean much, not unless you're cracking some seriously big markets. I guess they might mean something if you're trying to sell a novel to a small press publisher, but I'm assuming we're talking about aiming big, which is the goal of most writers.

I've bought a lot of short story collections, and I love reading them, but I also know from a reader's point of view that short stories are not as popular as novels, and short story collections generally don't do very well, even the ones by well-known authors. So even though I've read some good ones, I don't think I've read a lot of that were really in "demand" because I don't see much of a demand for short fiction. Not with the way markets are falling off more and more each year. I think the small press has opened a lot of doors, but I don't really count that as a demand as much as I see it filling a small niche market. Not complaining, of course. If it didn't exist I might never have read collections by authors like Laird Barron or Kelly Link, two of my favourite authors.

I had two offers by very small presses to do a collection of my own work, and I turned them both down. For one, the publishers were complete nobodies to me (and that's saying something since I consider myself something of a connoisseur of small presses) with unknown track records and I didn't see it as a good business decision. And secondly, although I've sold over 20 stories to various markets, I don't have such an ego that I think anyone knows who I am or that there is any demand for a collection of my work. And the only thing I can think of worse than having a collection rejected by a publisher is to see it get published and then sell zero copies.

I prefer to be patient and work on building my name, writing more short stories, and working on that first novel.
[info]jeffsoesbe wrote:
Oct. 8th, 2008 11:47 pm (UTC)
Jim --

Good post. It reminds me of the lecture Steven Gould gave us at Viable Paradise, whose summary was: "Worry about the things you can control."

In this whole thing, all I control is: what I write, what I write about, how often I write, and where I submit work. That's it. So when I think about "career strategy" my answer is "I write, I finish, I revise, I send it out, I do it again." And that's it. (I'd bet that was Jay's plan, except for Jay it was in hyper-drive).

But I'm also a short fiction person, thus I have no expectations of ever having a full-time "career" writing. So that might be my own peculiar take on the subject.

As you said, it's about writing and writing well (or, at least, continually trying to :-). That's just about all you can control. The rest is whatever it is...

- yeff


[info]devonmonk wrote:
Oct. 9th, 2008 12:56 am (UTC)
Good thoughts here. I wanted to write novels but was told I had to write and sell short stories first to build an audience for novel sales.

I've sold many short stories. While I don't think they helped me sell my books (as a matter of fact, I know my short story sales weren't brought up during the negotiation of my three-book deal) they did help me tighten my prose, tolerate rejection, tolerate reviews, learn to work with editors, and deadlines.

With each short story offering a chance to experience all those things in a shorter turn around time than novels, I feel writing and selling short stories gave me experience that is really coming in handy in my novel career.
[info]jimhines wrote:
Oct. 9th, 2008 01:12 am (UTC)
Long answer, but a thoughtful one. I agree that few of us start out with a real plan, or even a sense that planning is possible in this crazy business. I know when I figured that out, I spent a while going back and forth between short and long, trying to focus on what I "should" be writing. It got a little confusing, and more than a little frustrating at times.

I suspect short fiction can be very helpful, and can ease a writer into the world of novels ... but I don't think it's the only path. Your point about the Campbell nominees is a great one. And heck, I've yet to make it into one of the Year's Best anthologies :-)

In answer to whether there are things you should be consciously doing? The closest thing I can come to a universal answer is just "Write more."
[info]dsgood wrote:
Oct. 9th, 2008 02:45 am (UTC)
The "work your way up through the lengths" advice is, I think, left over from the days when short stories were the more marketable length in popular fiction. And not just for spec-fic, but for literary fiction, sports fiction of various kinds, etc.

Patricia C. Wrede has written in rec.arts.sf.composition about her experiences. She tried to start with short stories; couldn't sell them. First novel she wrote sold, and all the ones since have sold. She can now write and sell short stories -- but she considers herself a natural novelist. Says there are natural novelists and natural short story writers.

One bit of advice I can confidently give: If you're writing short stories, don't submit only to print magazines. There are probably more sf and fantasy magazines than during the early 1950s prozine boom -- but a large chunk of them, including some of the best-paying, are electronic.
[info]joshenglish wrote:
Oct. 9th, 2008 09:12 pm (UTC)
I have thought about this, too, with a bit more distress and frustration. I have two sold four stories, only two of which ever saw publication. I haven't sold anything in almost two years and I'm wondering if I can build a career without a) Winning Writers of the Future, b) Clarion (or any variety of immersion workshop), or c) Giving my stuff away in podcasts.

You have to write what is crying out to be written.

I can't agree more. My slow production comes from hearing the cries of one novel for a day or two, then taking care of a short story begging for attention, then responding to emergency CPR on a six-month-old draft that needs to be re-written. If I could stay with one short story for long enough (or write stuff under 2000 words) I might be more productive.

I hope I can fall back on your other words of wisdom:
You write what you love, you grow in your writing, you make some sales, and then a "career" is born somewhere along the way.
I know what I need to do is write and submit, and forget marketing and keep my public image clean.

I could go on (and on and on...) about this topic. Thank you for bringing it up.